elliot
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Post by elliot on Nov 16, 2015 7:38:43 GMT
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Recently we've heard a lot of 'chat' about limiting our Sub-Races. We want to hear what YOU want. Help us help you. Let your voice be heard!
Or don't, freedom is yours to vote or not.
Please remain friendly about this topic. Not everyone agrees with you, not everyone wants things to change. Accept that, that's what being human is all about.
Any argument above polite banter will result in your comment, and all following comments about the topic, being removed. This also includes posts that are irreverent to the topic. They will also be removed. If things get out of control, we will lock the thread.
Thank you so much for helping us out.
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Post by epitaxis on Nov 16, 2015 17:19:37 GMT
I'm not against limiting one subrace per player but I don't feel there's enough of a reason to implement a system like this as of yet.
99% of the time people are going to go for only one subrace unless their's dies anyways I would think, and you can easily pick out the attempts to play a Special Snowflake or a human in a mascot costume.
I'd imagine there'd be quite a verity of creatures banding together even with humans given these times.
5 years in there'd be a lot of creatures that would be used to the exposure of humans by now out of the necessity.
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elliot
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Post by elliot on Nov 16, 2015 21:14:36 GMT
~ Polls have been re-opened ~ |
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Post by Tweek on Nov 16, 2015 21:17:51 GMT
Before this discussion continues, I would like to note that we will shortly have a functioning Level Adjustment system for LA subraces.
LA +1 characters will need 3,000 XP to hit level 2 and then 6,000 for level 3, 10,000 for 4, etc.
LA +2 characters will need 6,000 XP to hit level 2, 10,000 for level 3, 15,000 for 4, etc.
Those who want to play a rare species will still have that option, as I figure these LA races will become undesirable in light of these XP barriers.
Just food for thought.
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Post by abyss on Nov 16, 2015 21:47:22 GMT
There isn't really an option here that fits what I want to express....So I chose 2 as it offers the most balance of what I want to say.
I suggest letting everyone get 1 to start.....Based on how well they rp that char let them go for another. Maybe even another after that....My issues come in when people have 35+ unique shiny snowflakes with no effort put into any of them.
And if someone abuses their ability to get multiples I would temporarily suspend that privilege, because that is what it should be...A privilege not a right.
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elliot
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Post by elliot on Nov 17, 2015 19:39:21 GMT
To explain the second option further. Everyone would be able to create one of the listed sub-races if they'd like. Then per-say they get bored of that character, or that character happens to die. If they would like to submit another request to get said second character- the first would have had to be level 4. Level 4 is just high enough to show us, the dm's, that you're dedicated to playing your sub-race, and that it's not just a 'special snowflake'.
tl;dr You get one free, the second one you need to have a character at level 4 before you can request.
I hope this helps clarify things for you.
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Post by Terallis on Nov 17, 2015 20:18:18 GMT
So, this has been talked about pretty thoroughly in Skype, but it's better to toss it up on the forums. I picked option 2, but not for what has generally been talked about regarding it. I personally don't believe that taking a second special race/subrace should be governed by reaching level 4. This can show some dedication as a player, but not exactly dedication to the RP. People can simply grind to level 4 with zero interaction with others. While that can seem difficult to some, there are plenty of people who know what they're doing and could get to that level rather quickly, without RP. To judge eligibility for a second subrace based on level just doesn't seem like a good way to go about it. I personally feel that the eligibility for a second subrace should be governed by quality of RP as seen by the DMs and players (more-so the DMs, of course). To show that they can stick to that specific race/subrace as well as the bio of the character. A player can easily get interaction to help get to level 4, but if they don't, then there's no real way of determining someone's quality of RP. If they don't play their first race/subrace like it should be played, then chances are that they won't play a second one that way, either. This is why it needs to be based around the quality of RP through interactions with other players and DMs, rather than simply basing it on dedication as a player through the character's level. Additionally, on the note of using both level and quality of RP, I still don't much see the point in using the level to determine it. A player could easily go months with amazing RP, but not really gaining much in the way of levels. If that's the case, then suddenly the quality of RP is thrown to the side due to the level limitation also being a thing. So, with all this in mind, I think with the second option, people should really be judged on their overall quality of RP and how close they play to their character's race and bio. (Also, I apologize if I sounded a bit frustrated. It's just how the words show up.  ) |
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elliot
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Post by elliot on Nov 18, 2015 1:03:55 GMT
I will be posting a basic example Sub-Race application, as well as a more detailed look into each of the options available to you (the players), once I get home from work. (around 9:30-10pm my time)
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Post by Tweek on Nov 18, 2015 2:10:37 GMT
My opinion is pretty simple - I think we're all primarily playing for fun, and if playing a subrace is someone's definition of fun they should be able to.
The reverse side of extreme leniency in making a subrace character in the first place is an agreement to adhere to our requirements in continued play. If a lot of players are unhappy with a given character and/or DMs are unimpressed with said character, give them a warning. If they still don't shape up, we could give them a suspension or whatever. I think the cases of that being necessary are a lot fewer than the time it will take to approve tons of applications.
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